Hard Rock Park - Court Updates & Sale
#1
Posted 17 February 2009 - 10:02 AM
FPI MB Entertainment initial bid of $25 million for the park was trumped by Coastal Entertainment, who offered $25.5 million.
FPI stated it wished to keep the Hard Rock brand name if their sale goes through, but Coastal Entertainment said they would drop the name shoudl they win the bid.
There appears to be no bid from Mark Lazarus' group.
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#2
Posted 17 February 2009 - 12:16 PM
"I won't pay to sit through a show each time I go," said one individual we spoke to, "It's a bad idea. Its what the Pavilion used to do and what Family Kingdom still does. It sounds like Disney's old eTicket program."
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Posted 17 February 2009 - 12:50 PM
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Posted 17 February 2009 - 01:11 PM
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#5
Posted 17 February 2009 - 01:33 PM
The judge did not rule on Coastal Entertainment's request for an auction. Coastal would need 10-14 days to lin up financing, which difers from the original statement that Coastal could close the deal immediately.
According to the the attorney for the trustee, he didn't believe the current circumstances warrent an auction.
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#8
Posted 17 February 2009 - 01:37 PM
And is FPI gonna be able to work it out with Hard Rock International?
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#9
Posted 17 February 2009 - 01:59 PM
Shame on you LOL LOL You are just as anxious as I am and everyone else. Although it does not seem like too many people are writing in like I thought would be. It seems like the same people. LOL
#10
Posted 17 February 2009 - 02:01 PM
No. I was offered to go, but there is too much to work on today for the site. I have my email and phone ringing with updates. Believe it or not, we actually do more than just cover HRP. LOL
FPI and HRI will now try to come to a decision about using the name. From the sound of things the judge is wasn't too happy with Coastal coming in at the last minute. If the judge is allowing FPI and HRI to talk, things may be leaning in favor of FPI.
Furthermore, it seems like an delay of 10-14 days would make it extremely hard for FPI to get the park ready by Memorial Day Weekend.
We have been told that Coastal wants to open the park in 2010 and add more rides, like a wooden coaster and another steel coaster. But I can not confirm this.
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#11
Posted 17 February 2009 - 02:07 PM
I'm new here too, thanks to all the auction commotion. First, in defense of Coastal, most of the world has never even heard of Hard Rock Park, let alone knew it was available to buy. Remember, that was one of the reasons they went bankrupt in the first place ... lack of advertising meant nobody knew it was there. Second, it's not exactly easy coming up with twenty-something million dollars. We tried, got to 22 million, and I'm still hopeful that the deal with Hard Rock licensing will keep the possibilities open. I can honestly say, I had to educate everyone I talked with as they had never heard of the place (both in this country and abroad), and subsequently, obviously didn't know it was for sale. And yes, some of those groups WERE in the themed entertainment industry overseas and STILL didn't know about the place. For all I know, some of the Coastal group could have been someone I talked with in the last week or two.
I am certainly curious why so many on this site and the news sites have thrown their support behind FPI without knowing really anything about them or their plans. Baker Leisure's last run of managing a park was Cypress Gardens. They were hired by the group that bought it out of bankruptcy. The stories vary, whether Baker quit or was fired, but the end result was the park closed for good after less than a year. I know they are creative guys, but that doesn't necessarily translate to knowing how to run a park. Just look at the people that built HRP -- very creative, very nice park --- but they sure didn't know how to run the place.
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Posted 17 February 2009 - 02:12 PM
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#13
Posted 17 February 2009 - 02:19 PM
If confirmed that BLG is the operator....Baker has been around for a lot more than just Cypress Gardens- (As I understand it, the CG Owner Group wanted to go in a different direction-less risk for animal park and rides park-stick with the gardens and a waterpark) They (BLG) has a lot of experienced people associated with them. They also do extensive feasibility studies (I used them on a big project before) which makes me think they have put together a good bid and have a good idea what they want to do- Also, Baker worked with HR before.
#14
Posted 17 February 2009 - 02:29 PM
Much of the memorabila has already been removed, including the Magical Mystery tour bus, which rolls down Highway 17 two weeks ago, on th eback of a flat bed truck. The merchandise with Hard Rock's name is still sitting at the park.
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#15
Posted 17 February 2009 - 02:32 PM
I was there as well, but I'm not talking about those within the industry that keep up with the industry -- folks like you and me that know everything that's going on everywhere. I'm talking about first and foremost the MONEY people of the world. A $400 million failure doesn't even show up as a blip on their radar right now as the economy is full of them. And then secondly, are the industry people that are primarily overseas and don't keep up with every little thing happening over here.
As for Baker, yes, they've been around a long time and yes, they do a lot of good work. FPI could fire them just as quick and the point would be moot. I've seen some stuff I'd question as well, but you're going to see that with a lot of places. I also think a lot of what they do crosses lines that it shouldn't. They aren't the only ones, but design groups really shouldn't do feasibility studies. Muddies the water too much. They aren't really the worse offenders in the industry of this, there's another group that is in the habit of doing a study and then turning around to do the design job. Sort of makes you wonder how reliable the numbers are or if they trumped them up to get the job.
Speaking of which, what I'd really be curious to know is who did the original one that claimed 3 million a year for HRP? As soon as I heard figure, I think it was sometime before they opened, I thought somebody was crazy. Eventually, sure, but first year? No way unless your name is Disney or Universal.
#16
Posted 17 February 2009 - 02:33 PM
I am certainly curious why so many on this site and the news sites have thrown their support behind FPI without knowing really anything about them or their plans. Baker Leisure's last run of managing a park was Cypress Gardens. They were hired by the group that bought it out of bankruptcy. The stories vary, whether Baker quit or was fired, but the end result was the park closed for good after less than a year. I know they are creative guys, but that doesn't necessarily translate to knowing how to run a park. Just look at the people that built HRP -- very creative, very nice park --- but they sure didn't know how to run the place.
In defense of FPI they were the FIRST of all to actually put the bid in and put money up to boot. Now everyone is crawling out of the woodwork to be a part of the action. I think it is only fair that they be awarded the key to what could be a very good thing happen to HRP. No one has ever heard of this Coastal whatever in the first place. I just think it is only fare to offer it to the first person after all they can not do any more damage to the park then what has already happened. But this is only my opinion. may the best man win whoever it may be and just lets get on with the show. Lets rock our way through this in a good way. have a good day.
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Posted 17 February 2009 - 02:34 PM
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#19
Posted 17 February 2009 - 02:38 PM
The closing will be no later than 5pm on Thursday. The judge said that anyone who wanted to purcahse the park had time to bid. The objection made by Coastal Entertainment was overruled.
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#20
Posted 17 February 2009 - 02:39 PM
No, they weren't the first. Are you forgetting the group that wired in 5 million and offered a selling price of 35 million? FPI were the first in round 2 that the trustee accepted. The "crawling out of the woodwork" as you say, are for the most part groups that have been trying for longer than FPI, and, thus, should not be desparaged. That being said, I hope they have a successful run. It's far too nice of a park to have such a short life.

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